Posts by Nathan Natas

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250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood

by nicolaou in

80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.

250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.

stop this #cult!

Nathan Natas

rhetorical Q.: J ust how stupid are jehovahs witnesses?

A.: You admitted to being a JW, so how stupid are YOU?

Almost everyone here was once a JW... how stupid was I?

I'm going to try to make a General Plea for Slack. Let's remember that when we make a sweeping statement like "JWs are stupid" we are including our former selves, some people we once loved, and the previous incarnation of some of our present friends. Many people who join the Witneses do so not because of stupidity, but because of FEAR, and admit it, this planet can be a very scary place sometimes. So a soft-spoken colporteur shows up one day when we are especially vulnerable and tells us that SkyDaddy is going to make it all better, and that SkyDaddy is going the raise Dear Old Uncle Ted from the dead, and manna and Coca-Cola will miraculously appear just before you knew you wanted it... such a sweet, desirable dream... so before you know what has happened you are going to the Kingdom Hall for five meetings a week and you have convinced yourself that your dearest Aunt, who you love so much, is an agent of Satan... Your goal becomes to "endure to the end" so that you can be SAVED. It's not stupid to want to be SAVED - that desire is the PRIME DIRECTIVE of our DNA.

We were LIED to. So were they. They are no more stupid than you and I were. It's a pity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JqowmHgxVJQ

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Come... take the free gift of the water of life!

by tec in

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friends

peace to you all!.

for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).

i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.

Nathan Natas

Wishing you a rapid and complete recovery from your recent head trauma.

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JW Doctors

by elisaporquien in

okay i know that there are people who began careers in medicine, law, etc.

then later got into the truth.

i know that pursuing a higher education is not forbidden but a personal choice.

Nathan Natas

Elisaporquien said, " Okay I know that there are people who began careers in Medicine, Law, etc. then LATER got into the truth. I know that pursuing a higher education is not forbidden but a personal choice. Is there anyone out there, reading this, that grew up in the truth and pursued a career in medicine (and remained in the truth)? What was the experience like (both med school and residency)? I'm not a Jehovah's Witness but my mom and my sister are and I believe in no blood. "

You are now in the company of XJWs. We don't use the Watchtower catch-phrase "the Truth™" because Watchtower dogma has nothing to do with objective, observabe truth. We don't impugn truth by associating the word with the Watchtower. Call it "the Truth" around your Mom and Sis if you must, but don't expect us to get warm & fuzzy when you use that cult lingo here.

...and if you really are not a JW as you say, WHY o why would you call it "the truth"? Is that just a bad habit you picked up, or do you really believe it is "the truth"? If you do, get thee to a Kingdom Hall!

You say that higher education is a "personal choice." Yeah, if you don't mind being labeled as "spiritually weak" and constantly harrassed from all sides because of your "choice", then yeah, sure it's a "choice" viewed in the same way that your "choice" to use heroin would be.

So, you're not a JW but you believe in "no blood." Are you an Israelite? Are you a member of The Society For Creative Anachronism trying to get a post-diluvian gig going? Do you accept blood fractions in the way JWs do, or are you an absolutist on the issue?

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Dubs & Halloween

by Nathan Natas in

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Nathan Natas

Dubs & Halloween

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Six extra Jehovahs!

by slimboyfat in

the old nwt used the name jehovah 7207 times and the new nwt uses it 7213 times.. has anyone worked out where the extra jehovahs appear in the text?

who wants to play where's wally, i mean where's jehovah?

however there's an even bigger jump in jesuses: 940 up from 918.. satan is exactly the same at 54..

Nathan Natas

OUTLAW is the JWN Poet Laureate!

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2014 Year Text "Let Your Kingdom Come"

by scotoma in

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friends

guy pierece mentioned the years text as let your kingdom come and then dropped the line "it's been 100 years since the kingdom was established in the heavens".. that was it.

wouldn't the 2013 corp meeting be the appropriate time to be discussing that milestone - instead of waiting til 2014 is 3/4 over next october.. obviously they don't want to dwell on the 100 years because it really puts the old light about the generation in a "bad light".

doesn't a centennial deserve a proper celebration?.

Nathan Natas

"2014 - Let Your Kingdom Compost"

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3D printing questions.

by DATA-DOG in

what the heck are they?

should i learn more about them?

do you think there will be career opportunities?

Nathan Natas

A few years ago I bought 3 of these to display in an office basket:

vorodo

Imagine trying to carve this out of wood.

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3D printing questions.

by DATA-DOG in

what the heck are they?

should i learn more about them?

do you think there will be career opportunities?

Nathan Natas

I think that 3D printers will revolutioize workshops the way Guttenberg's movable type revolutionized printed communication.

So YES, if you have the inclination to learn about them, do so.

But I would advise against learning about them from a repairman's (service technician's) point-of-view. Instead, learn about how to CREATE with them using 3D CAD and (if this applies) Numerical Control methods. Then you would be able to create you own visions AND, if you wished, work as a consultant or "short job run" specialist to other businesses in your area.

3D printshops will be the new incarnations of the old "village smithy" shop.

Carpe Diem!

As for what they are:

Visualize your desktop inkjet printer: that is a 2D printer. It prints on an X and Y axis.

The 3D printer is very similar to your inkjet printer, except that instead if squirting droplets of liquid ink onto a sheet of paper, it squirts droplets of molten plastic (usually) onto the work surface. The molten plastic rapidly cools and the printer then advances on the Z axis and repeats the process. In this way the plastic is deposited as "slices" of the thing being replicated.

There is a site for a company called SHAPEWAYS that allows people to market things they have designed. The site is here:

http://www.shapeways.com/

Most of the items offered are less than 4 inches square, and they do tend to be pricey, but this IS new tech, and the print engines (the machines) and the printer "ink" are expensive.

Bathsheba Grossman was one early adopter of 3D printing technology. She is an artist who has a better-than-average grasp of mathematics, and she produces sculptures like "Metatron," shown here:

metatron

This is a great example of what you can do with 3D printing.

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Wife update

by problemaddict in

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friends

if you want the short version, scroll down to "short version".. .

so i am at 1200 posts or so (only about 6 were probably of note), and i still havenlt told my story and probably won't for some time.

basically, i was a born in who has served in other countries, as an ms, and given talks etc... my wife and i were in foreign language, have co's we have counted as close family friends, and were basically the golden boy and girl of their respective areas.

Nathan Natas

Congratulations and best wishes and good luck going forward.

One thing that LEPT out at me was that your wife was a victim of abuse and yet it seems that is not an issue for her. Am I correct on that? Does she just give her abuser a "pass" or does she think that the True Religion™ would of course have abusers of children who are "in good standing" within the religion, even holding exalted offices.

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OK - I've had it - My letter to the KH

by LisaRose in

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friends

the whole time i lived in colorado, i had the dubs come by once and leave a tract.

but since moving to california, they are at my door so often i asked them to put me on the "do not call" list.

this did not stop them, in fact i have asked four times, plus once i called the kingdom hall and left a message, they still come, the last time this past saturday.

Nathan Natas

LisaRose,

If you feel you need to write to them, then you SHOULD do it.

Don't count on them reading it, though.

That LAST SENTENCE is a KILLER strategy... if they didn't read the entire letter they will regret it!

Have you asked your lawyer about issuing Jehovah's Witnesses (as a class, at the local Kingdom Hall) with a restraining order insisting they not set foot on your property. If they do, you will call 911 to report trespassers on your property harrassing you intent on intentionally inflicting emotional harm to you. Then if they show up again, carry out the plan.

Do you live in an area where POSTED signs can be displayed? You might also want to consider HD video monitoring so violations can be documented and the perps identified.

Once you have a violator "on the hook," launch at least a civil suit (if a criminal suit can't happen) with the goal being to cost that "faithful Dub" some cash.

The WTB&TS will not lift a finger to assist the person who went toyour door AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE (especially when the crime was committed after so many written warnings and is proved with video). This will serve as an education to the Dub pawn about how well WT shepherds protect the flock (they don't).

Leave the Dub pawn's corpse impaled on a spear near the entrance to your property. (spiritually speaking)

Live long and prosper!